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Which Is Worse: the Race-Baiting or the Red-Baiting?

OK, you don't have to pick. Every trick-o'-the-hour the Republican Party is coming up with to try to turn the election is sleazy at this point. For instance, here's race-baiting in Wisconsin and here's more red-baiting nationally. American to McCain: If you want votes, you're going to have to stop waging bigoted attacks and tell the American people what is so great about you and Sarah Palin, and how you're going to help Main Street. You have not done that, yet, while you're bending over backward to defend George Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy. You're not fooling us.

Previous Comments

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139797
Comment

Republicans are playing the Wright card, right on schedule. It's as if they don't know how NOT to race-bait.

Author
DonnaLadd
Date
2008-10-27T14:05:14-06:00
ID
139802
Comment

Today, at a Palin rally, someone yelled out, "He's a n*gger!"–and she fumbled a bit, but didn't stop and say a damn thing back to them, and then just ccontinued her red-baiting. Watch the YouTube here.

Author
DonnaLadd
Date
2008-10-27T14:19:37-06:00
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139803
Comment

That was in Iowa, by the way. I'll say it again: Thank God this stuff isn't happening in Mississippi. We would never hear the end of it.

Author
DonnaLadd
Date
2008-10-27T14:20:59-06:00
ID
139805
Comment

I see Bay Buchannon, Anne Coulter and Sean Hannity written all over this. I know they did it, and with a "power sign saying right on, my brothers and sister, solid on down."

Author
Walt
Date
2008-10-27T14:29:18-06:00
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139807
Comment

Republicans are playing the Wright card, right on schedule. It's amazing how some people bring this up and say that Obama went to a radical Christian church, and then in the next breath say that Obama is a radical Muslim. Which is it, already? However, what bugs me more than that is having a picture of Obama's children in the ad. Today, at a Palin rally, someone yelled out, "He's a n*gger!" Considering what has already happened at past rallies, it was only a matter of time.

Author
LatashaWillis
Date
2008-10-27T14:36:51-06:00
ID
139810
Comment

Considering what has already happened at past rallies, it was only a matter of time. Yes, who else sees a large resemblance between those crowds and lynching mobs? Its all I could think of this morning when I was watching her speech.

Author
Lori G
Date
2008-10-27T14:44:44-06:00
ID
139811
Comment

Y'all need to read this forum post: Guilt by association

Author
LatashaWillis
Date
2008-10-27T14:45:22-06:00
ID
139817
Comment

LW, Richard Pryor said the thing about the use of the N-word is if you get your butt whipped you know you said it right. Pryor said this before rappers made the glorious and failed attempt to change the spelling and meaning of the word. Surely, the rallying member meant __gga! We southerners knew we didn't have a monopoly on racism or gross ignorance. And since we haven't been able to get away pretending so long like people up North, out West and out East, we either grew up or learned how to practice racism just right - more subtly or with subtlety. Those lying and conniving Northerners just don't know how to be discrete or light-handed. I'm surprised only one N-word was used since they running out of time and ways to stop the _____.

Author
Walt
Date
2008-10-27T14:59:41-06:00
ID
139827
Comment

A friend e-mailed me a picture of a guy on a motorcycle in Florida with a t-shirt on reading: . I don't care what any thin skinned person says, this base of folk are just ignorant WINGNUTS. Sorry.

Author
FreeClif
Date
2008-10-27T15:33:35-06:00
ID
139829
Comment

Palin didn't correct the person who called Obama the n-word because she didn't want to be seen disagreeing with a position she agrees with. She fumbled a bit only to fight off the words, "Yes he is, and an uppity one, to boot."

Author
Walt
Date
2008-10-27T15:38:26-06:00
ID
139830
Comment

Or maybe she didn't call them out because that would have drawn attention to the dumbass and that's what he wanted.

Author
BubbaT
Date
2008-10-27T15:41:48-06:00
ID
139833
Comment

My friends Bubba and Harry no matter the outcome of the election I suggest your party write a book called "Some Mo' or New Bullsh1t to Support the Race Agenda in America. The old one is not fitting the bill.

Author
Walt
Date
2008-10-27T15:49:00-06:00
ID
139834
Comment

Walt- What is my party? I have never claimed to be a Rep. or a Dem. I have voted for both.

Author
BubbaT
Date
2008-10-27T15:56:01-06:00
ID
139836
Comment

The MOST interesting nugget in all of this for me are the . It has been reported that during canvassing in western PA, folks have answered the door and referred to Obama using the N word and said they are going to vote for that N! I guess the economy is THAT bad!

Author
FreeClif
Date
2008-10-27T15:57:16-06:00
ID
139837
Comment

I reason I believe so strongly in Bubba's position here is because when you adopt a mantra or course of action that plays desperately into the racist fears and sentiments of racists or sickos or wingnuts, you're still surprised when they act like racists, sickos, wingnuts and strangenuts. In other words, McCain and Palin are innocent and have no idea such behavior begets said behavior. No republican does. This is why I respect them so much. They're smart and honest to a fault.

Author
Walt
Date
2008-10-27T15:59:11-06:00
ID
139841
Comment

Bubba I have voted for both too, but I'm a proud Democrat. Prouder than ever before. Just having a little fun Bubba. My apology if I'm offending you. I don consider you good people. So, you may not be a republican, after all.

Author
Walt
Date
2008-10-27T16:05:15-06:00
ID
139844
Comment

Walt- To tell the truth I am probably not going to vote for either McCain or Obama. Neither one of them impresses me enough to vote for them.

Author
BubbaT
Date
2008-10-27T16:13:03-06:00
ID
139845
Comment

I'm not surprised Bubba. There is simply no difference between the two! No offense but I expect many white men to sit this one out.

Author
Walt
Date
2008-10-27T16:15:20-06:00
ID
139846
Comment

Can I just add that I don't see how any highly functioning individual could vote for George Bush twice or even once then fear McCain or Obama. If Bush has driven us bankrupt morally, spiritually, reputation-wise and fiscally, it seems to me that anyone further to the left of him would improve us drasticly.

Author
Walt
Date
2008-10-27T16:25:10-06:00
ID
139862
Comment

The good news is that the woman apparently was not shouting the n-word at the rally earlier. Read this diary at DailyKos correcting it. The bad news is that she was apparently shouting "redistributor," in response to the red-baiting that McCain-Palin keep pounding. Redistributor=socialism=communism=redistributing-to-those-who-don't-deserve-it, which in this state and many others, has long meant people of color. It's more coded but almost as bad. Still, an unfounded n-word accusation is not good, as the diarist points out. It's not good to respond to race-baiting with race-baiting.

Author
DonnaLadd
Date
2008-10-28T05:23:46-06:00
ID
139871
Comment

Um, Obama is in favor of redistribution. I, and many many others like me, are opposed to the idea that "everybody benefits when you spread the wealth." There are no codes here. We hate the government taking our money. End of story. Let me give it to charity, which are infinitely more capable at helping those who need it.

Author
QB
Date
2008-10-28T09:23:37-06:00
ID
139872
Comment

Um, Harry, anybody–including McCain and even you, I suspect–are in favor of "redistribution" (at least Obama's kind) if you favor any kind of taxation whatsoever. You're not talking to idiots on this site, remember. It's all about codes. The McCain campaign, and Republican surrogates, are trying to race-bait voters into thinking Obama is a socialist when McCain himself has supporting very similar tax relief to that of Obama. That's the irony: the guy offering the most people tax cuts gets called the "socialist." What lunacy. Read my lips: The only real different in Obama's and McCain's tax-relief plans is that Obama wants most of his to go to the middle class, and McCain wants to shield the wealthy. Somehow, the less-than-intelligent among us–or those who think everyone is stupid–is trying to spin that into "socialism," or some Marxist "redistribution of wealth." Truly, truly stop insulting us. The middle class and small businesses are hurting. If a business does not make (as in "profit") over $250,000 a year, it gets a tax break. Those that make over that will be rewarded with tax relief if they use the profits to create new jobs, which is *exactly* what businesses such as ours do as we make more money.

Author
DonnaLadd
Date
2008-10-28T09:27:11-06:00
ID
139877
Comment

Harry I know the government spending all that tax money on unnecessary or made up wars bother you too.

Author
Walt
Date
2008-10-28T09:44:38-06:00
ID
139885
Comment

Funny. Gov. Palin has her own juicy "socialist" quote. And she's the one who actually takes from the very rich (oil companies) and gives it to the less-wealthy (every Alaskan). A few weeks before she was nominated for Vice-President, she told a visiting journalist–Philip Gourevitch, of this magazine–that "we're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs." Perhaps there is some meaningful distinction between spreading the wealth and sharing it ("collectively," no less), but finding it would require the analytic skills of Karl the Marxist. The "redistribution" talking point is ridiculous.

Author
DonnaLadd
Date
2008-10-28T10:41:41-06:00
ID
139904
Comment

It is just uncanny how every time the right wingers come up with a new attack angle their own words and record undermines it. McCain was against continuing the Bush tax cuts until he changed his mind and now says that will amount to socialism a la Karl Marx. It IS insulting to our intelligence. It reminds me of the con men who operate on the El trains in Chicago. They try to take your money by getting you to bet on guessing which card is where when they are actually hiding the card you think you are picking --- actually there is no way you can win because by the time you are trying to find the card you selected they have hidden it with a quick movement you failed to see. The hand is quicker than the eye if you are not sharp enough to figure it out. Maybe a majority of people have finally figured out the con game.

Author
FreeClif
Date
2008-10-28T13:18:34-06:00
ID
139907
Comment

The recent GOP power structure is remarkably Orwellian, especially Palin. If she says something, you can damn well count on the opposite being true. - Told Congress "no thanks" on Bridge to Nowhere. - Not my clothes. (then why did you wear them until you got busted?) - I'm a reformer. (See pipeline lobbyist games) - Got a pipeline through (ditto) - Against "redistribution." (see Alaska oil money) - Flag-waving America (see Alaska Independence Party) - Yes, I'm a feminist. Etc. (feel free to add your own)

Author
DonnaLadd
Date
2008-10-28T13:46:04-06:00
ID
139913
Comment

Palin reminds me of one of Prince's girls from Vanity 6 which had out a song called "sex shooter" in the 80s. I can't remember the lyrics and don't know if I ever heard them. The three girls had a way of blocking all your sensibilities except sight. One of the lines says, "I'm a sex shooter, baby; shooting love in your direction, come and play with my affection or something like that." That's Palin for you, in my opinion. Once Prince stopped writing, producing and propping up the girls they went away for good.

Author
Walt
Date
2008-10-28T14:17:16-06:00
ID
139917
Comment

That was Apollonia and the group in the movie Purple Rain was the Apollonia 6. I love Prince! (and Purple Rain)

Author
Tre
Date
2008-10-28T14:29:44-06:00
ID
139922
Comment

What Palin doesn't understand and apparently no one hipped her to. Love doesn't feel that bad. It doesn't feel so sad. What Palin does doesn't make you feel good inside. I don't know what she's spewing or doing, but it ain't love. Inside her heart, it always raining. And I'm so tired, tired of her complaining. This is for real. It ain't no game. You can't measure your love by the depths of your pain. That's not the way love is supposed to be. That's not love. No, no , no, that ain't love.

Author
Walt
Date
2008-10-28T15:13:07-06:00

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