Ellington

The daughter of John F. Kennedy endorsed Barack Obama this weekend on the op-ed page of The New York Times. In a statement that cannot make the Clintons happy, she said that Obama is the first potential president who has inspired her as other people say her father inspired them. Take a read:

My reasons are patriotic, political and personal, and the three are intertwined. All my life, people have told me that my father changed their lives, that they got involved in public service or politics because he asked them to. And the generation he inspired has passed that spirit on to its children. I meet young people who were born long after John F. Kennedy was president, yet who ask me how to live out his ideals.

Sometimes it takes a while to recognize that someone has a special ability to get us to believe in ourselves, to tie that belief to our highest ideals and imagine that together we can do great things. In those rare moments, when such a person comes along, we need to put aside our plans and reach for what we know is possible. [...]

Senator Obama is running a dignified and honest campaign. He has spoken eloquently about the role of faith in his life, and opened a window into his character in two compelling books. And when it comes to judgment, Barack Obama made the right call on the most important issue of our time by opposing the war in Iraq from the beginning.

I want a president who understands that his responsibility is to articulate a vision and encourage others to achieve it; who holds himself, and those around him, to the highest ethical standards; who appeals to the hopes of those who still believe in the American Dream, and those around the world who still believe in the American ideal; and who can lift our spirits, and make us believe again that our country needs every one of us to get involved.

I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president — not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans.

Previous Comments

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116552

Comment

New York Times today on Obama's important South Carolina victory, and what it means going forward.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2008-01-27T13:05:43-06:00

ID

116553

Comment

I think it is a good endorsement. Her uncle Ted Kennedy endorsing him will free up a lot of less powerful politicians to support Obama as well. I think people are deciding to go with who they feel will actually make things better as opposed to those that may help them politically. Obama is a special person. It just proves to me that you do not have to be 100 or have done something for 25 years to be successful. I think leaders are born, not made. Whether Obama wins or not, we need the type of leader that is willing to bring folks together instead of those that like to keep the pot stirred.

Author

Goldenae

Date

2008-01-27T13:39:59-06:00

ID

116554

Comment

I thought Obama would win South Carolina; I didn't think it would be a walk in the park. The Clintons are getting rather desperate, as the tone of their attacks have proven. Hillary even went as far as try to paint Obama as the "black candidate" and she needs to be extremely careful treading on such waters, or else she'll piss off more black voters who probably would vote for her.

Author

golden eagle

Date

2008-01-27T20:45:16-06:00

ID

116555

Comment

Isn't it interesting how many members of the Democrat "establishment" are supporting Obama, the "non-establishment" candidate?

Author

Jeff Lucas

Date

2008-01-27T23:48:29-06:00

ID

116556

Comment

Obama has been polling quite well among the more wealthier, educated voters, as to where Hillary's strengths have been stronger among the poorer, less educated. It is rather strange to think that Obama would be doing better among the "establishment" voters. Maybe they simply see better qualities in him rather than Hillary.

Author

golden eagle

Date

2008-01-28T00:22:29-06:00

ID

116557

Comment

Weeeellll... It depends on how you define the establishment. Obama only carried 7% of white voters over 60 in South Carolina, for example, and Clinton has consistently performed better among the over-45 demographic; Obama, on the other hand, has the under-30 vote practically monopolized. To the extent that the Democratic Party is still run by white baby boomers, they lean slightly towards Clinton. If Obama gets the nomination, it will represent a generational shift comparable to the election of Bill Clinton in 1992. That'll be beautiful to see, but one thing it won't represent is the triumph of the establishment.

Author

Tom Head

Date

2008-01-28T01:41:26-06:00

ID

116558

Comment

Re the Clintons and the "black candidate" rhetoric, anyone else catch Bill Clinton making a weird, non sequitur comparison between Obama winning the South Carolina primary and Jesse Jackson winning the '84 and '88 South Carolina caucuses? It's almost as if Clinton were saying "Oh, don't worry; it's just a black thing."

Author

Tom Head

Date

2008-01-28T01:42:55-06:00

ID

116559

Comment

That's what I've been saying all along, Tom. The Clintons have decided that the way to beat Obama is to minimize him in the minds of white Democrats as just another black candidate with a pro-black civil rights agenda. I heard Slick Willie's comment the other day and it just reminded me that our "1st Black President" can play the race card as well as any segregationist from back in the day when it suits his goals.

Author

Jeff Lucas

Date

2008-01-28T07:02:24-06:00

ID

116560

Comment

Jeff, you are so right. If one of the GOP candidate's used the same words, they'd be excoriated in blogs and the media. This is why it's hard to take cries of racism seriously when it's used so selectively.

Author

Cliff Cargill

Date

2008-01-28T07:46:47-06:00

ID

116561

Comment

Lest we forget, the "black vote" accounts for a very small percentage of the electorate, and it is concentrated in states which are generally safe bets in the general election. The Clinton strategy is looking beyond the primary election. At this point, considering the delegate count, it looks like a bad strategy; but it is a valid gamble.

Author

Willezurmacht

Date

2008-01-28T08:53:05-06:00

ID

116562

Comment

The Clinton have lost me as a supporter. As smart as the Clintons obviously are, I'm surprised they're resorting to rank and coded appeals to race. I'm especially surprised at Bill who is likely a genius. He has allowed emotion to take the place of intellect and judgment. I think the Clintons are falsely beleiving or concluding that if blacks are supporting Obama only because of race (which is a false assumption) why not play the race game too since they have the numbers and because they want Hillary to win at nearly all cost, not just to accept the people will, whatever that might be. Hillary is also tempted to play the gender or white woman thing. I'm so glad we have a viable and attractive black candidate to shine the light on the issue of race. If Obama wins watch what the GOP does. You haven't seen any codes language yet. However, a smarter thing for the GOP to do is not play the race game publicly, and to just rely on the historical facts that many if not most whites will do what they expect and need - turn back blacks. We had better watch the GOP closely to make sure they don't fool us about the games they will play to win the next election. In my opinion, there are no greater gamers and phonies than the present system of republicans.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-28T09:56:02-06:00

ID

116563

Comment

Right, Ray. You can see it happening out there. They're screwing up right now, showing that their (his) appeal to African Americans may have been more calculated than many wanted to think. It's very sad, and it's helping Obama. This is from a column by Roger Cohen in The New York Times today called Obama's Youth-Driven Movement: Something is stirring in the U.S.A.. Even in this depressed corner of the country, a place where trains no longer stop and poor families get water from shallow wells, you feel it. A political campaign has become a movement with Barack Obama at its head. Campaigns are planned. But movements are full of impromptu decisions like the one that delivered Bryant Jones, 25, to this backwater. A few days ago, Jones, who is white and has always leaned Republican, jumped in his car and drove seven hours from Washington D.C. to campaign for Obama, a black Democrat. “It was his all-encompassing message that got to me,” Jones, a student at George Washington University said. “I feel uplifted by him.” [...] Certainly, Bill Clinton lost no opportunity to inject race, alluding to Jesse Jackson’s victories here in the 1984 and 1988 Democratic primaries, as if to minimize the significance of Obama’s win and clothe him in Jackson’s marginal mantle. The “first black president,” as he was once called, seemed intent on setting the limits of the first African-American with a real shot at the White House. Obama, in victory, took a different tack. “The choice in this election is not between regions or religions or genders. It’s not about rich versus poor, young versus old, and it’s not about black versus white. This election is about the past versus the future.” These lines reprised the unifying theme of Obama’s breakthrough speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention while adding a note that has been critical to his youth-driven momentum: equating Clinton with the status quo. The Clintons are the status quo, and they are proving it by playing the race card. Disgusting.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2008-01-28T11:52:34-06:00

ID

116564

Comment

Let me add that I've been thinking critically about taking a more non-partisan approach to politic for a while now. I had this approach when in my twenties, but I worked a job in corporate America inundated with republicans who thought due to Reagan's prominence at the time that they could do anything they wanted to. They were bold, arrogant, surly and even outwardly racist. I wound up despicing them and refusing to continue working with and for them. My present opinion of republicans is the same as back then because I haven't seen any contrary conduct or behavior from them. People try to tell me not all fit the impression I prominently experienced. While that message resonated slightly, I'll believe it when I see some proof and not before. He, he.... Anyway, I love what Caroline said are the reasons she's supporting Obama. A great poet once said, "people will forget what you say, but they won't forget how you make them feel." This is a plus for Obama and the very reason lots of people can't stand Hillary. I still do not believe the country will elect Obama, no matter his plentiful talents. I know too much history. I realize that much of the citizentry is in denial or an amnesias state of existence. But I'm not. As I continue to read and research the history of race and racism in this country, the more I realize how brillantly black scholar said decades, scores and centureis ago what I'm still saying today. Powerful people intent on hiding the truth punished and caused those honest and honorable messengers great suffering. Moreover, a greater majority running from the truth had no appetite to hear the truth. As always, we will see who is wrong.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-28T11:54:04-06:00

ID

116565

Comment

Oh, and I had a prominent young white Republican tell me last night that he believes that Obama will be our next president. And he does not seem unhappy about it.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2008-01-28T11:54:41-06:00

ID

116566

Comment

I hope I'm wrong, Donna. However, becoming president of the United States of America is a big stakes game. When it gets down to the wire, the moment of reckoning, I don't forego any room for the "able to decide" persons to send a meritorious message that likely defies the rank and instinctive reality of the majority. I know reality can change though, and I admit it has to some extent in lots of things. Great changes in some things and none in others.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-28T12:12:14-06:00

ID

116567

Comment

Teddy Kennedy's dust-up with the Clintons is intriguing as well. I'm not a Teddy Kennedy fan, but I do think he is right that the Clintons are dealing with Obama all wrong. Right now, they are trying to divide based on race, and that ain't pretty: Both the Clintons and their allies had pressed Mr. Kennedy for weeks to remain neutral in the Democratic race, but Mr. Kennedy had become increasingly disenchanted with the tone of the Clinton campaign, aides said. He and former President Bill Clinton had a heated telephone exchange earlier this month over what Mr. Kennedy considered misleading statements by Mr. Clinton about Mr. Obama, as well as his injection of race into the campaign. Mr. Kennedy called Mr. Clinton Sunday to tell him of his decision. The endorsement, which followed a public appeal on Mr. Obama’s behalf by Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of President John F. Kennedy, was a blow to the Clinton campaign and pits leading members of the nation’s most prominent Democratic families against one another. Mr. Kennedy, a major figure in party politics for more than 40 years, intends to campaign aggressively for Mr. Obama, beginning with an appearance and rally with him in Washington on Monday. He will be introduced by Ms. Kennedy.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2008-01-28T12:37:02-06:00

ID

116568

Comment

"people will forget what you say, but they won't forget how you make them feel." -funny…too funny…this is the problem. Black folk tend to want someone to rescue them…we sit back and hope and pray that one day things will make sense and that racism will no longer be an issue…sorry folks it aint happenin…the Clintons are not my friends and neither is obama…i have to admit that i don’t look at him and see hope…he is not running as a black man, he is running on the hopes of the constitution and for years white folks have been living off of the theory of the constitution while black folk live with its realites…obama has quite a few pleasant things to say about how he loves this country and what this country means…this country does not show me that it loves me…in fact the opposite is well documented…i have been taught that when words and actions contradict follow actions…the Clintons are showing their actions…obama is missing the point…other folks may feel inspired by his rhetoric but not me…skipp does not believe for one moment in time that he will be elected…and if he is…there is something to him that does not make me feel at ease…leaders aren’t made…true…but where oh where has mr. obama been all these years…he just emerges from the wilderness with promises of equality and messages of hope…i cant vote for a man because of a speech…in a lot of ways he reminds of yall mayor…lots of words and promises no documentation of how…

Author

skipp

Date

2008-01-28T13:29:08-06:00

ID

116569

Comment

Y'all's mayor! That sonsa_____ ain't my mayor althought I ain't crazy about the one we got in Ridgeland either, but he's alright. I saw "uncle" Shelby Steele on CSPAN yesterday and accidentally fell asleep while he was talking about Barack. Perhaps it was the cooning that put me to sleep! Smile. He said Barack is "masking" something. I suspect with Shelby being an uncle and all, and since he was speaking to an all white audience, he was trying to say Barack is a flaming liberal pretending to be something else or different. SKipp it's very hard to please everyone. Becoming president requires walking through a maze and not getting lost or found out to be cheating or pretending. I'm not sure I know exactly who Barack is either, but I do assume he doesn't despise black folks as much as Guilani, Hilary or the other repugnants running for office. Personally, I like Obama's wife more than I do him.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-28T13:44:00-06:00

ID

116570

Comment

I'm beginning to see the mirage of Obama as president and Ray Carter as deputy attorney general in "charge of payback" for what has occurred the last 8 years in selctive prosecutions of people not on the team. I forgot I'm 'spose to be considering be non-partisan politic.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-28T14:00:38-06:00

ID

116571

Comment

the clintons have always been parasites on the black community and I am so happy that the "real" Bill is appearing because @ first he was seen as some type of savior....Obama'08 all the way for me and the Kennedy endorsement is BIG....

Author

Panther

Date

2008-01-28T14:08:57-06:00

ID

116572

Comment

now that is a point...she aint hard on the eyes either...anywho...if ever white folk wanted to repeal the 13th amendment...it would be TD Jakes and Creflo Dollar et. al leading the charge...its something going on here and instead of voting for the lesser of two evils...im pulling for mike gravel...my dark horse is johnny e...but your uncle shelby is a joke like the others (jackson, sharpton, dyson)...it is what it is...but i dont think that obama is the savior of america

Author

skipp

Date

2008-01-28T14:11:01-06:00

ID

116573

Comment

We need Jessie and Al. Where are they with the election? Did Obama tell them there is no ice cream for them this time. Don't hate on Dyson. He's a wordsmith. We can always tell white America I bet y'all don't have anyone who can talk as fast as Dyson. Besides Dyson is smart. A little bit full of bull too but nontheless smart.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-28T14:16:43-06:00

ID

116574

Comment

We need Jessie and Al. Where are they with the election? Did Obama tell them there is no ice cream for them this time. Sharpton was on The View today, and he said he wasn't going to endorse anyone for the primary. As to why, he said he didn't want anyone to misunderstand why he's getting behind any particular person. I guess he's waiting to see who wins the primary, and then he'll endorse.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2008-01-28T14:34:02-06:00

ID

116575

Comment

did elizabeth die???

Author

skipp

Date

2008-01-28T14:43:14-06:00

ID

116576

Comment

Elizabeth who?

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2008-01-28T15:10:36-06:00

ID

116577

Comment

elizabeth from the view...did she die when al showed up

Author

skipp

Date

2008-01-28T15:55:50-06:00

ID

116578

Comment

Actually, she did quite well. I forgot she was sitting there, LOL.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2008-01-28T16:06:23-06:00

ID

116579

Comment

While I was off work a few days last week recuperating, before Jerry Springer and Maury came on (my favorite shows), I saw a little bit of the view. I don't care much for the View as the actors or performers are a little too laid back on there for me. All of them got teeth too, and that's appalling to me. With all the money Barbara Walters has, you would think she would buy a bell like they have on Jerry Springer and use it to get the contestants to fight. Strangely, they haven't risen to this plateau, as of yet. The language on the view while often animated and violent by some standards, it can never compare to my favorite shows. Elizabeth didn't have much going on up stairs before Rosie left and she delivered her baby. Now she has even less going on in the cerebral receesses of her noggin. She like many republicans have just about been shamed into silence.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-28T16:15:09-06:00

ID

116580

Comment

There seems to be a difference of opinion among the Kennedys. Robert Kennedy's children are endorsing Clinton. The hotly contested Democratic contest has spawned a political family feud of sorts within the famous Kennedy clan, prompting the children of Sen. Kennedy’s slain brother, Robert Kennedy, to affirm their support for Clinton. “I respect Caroline and Teddy’s decision but I have made a different choice,” said Kathleen Kennedy Townsend in a statement released yesterday by the Clinton campaign after news of the senator’s endorsement was leaked. Townsend also noted her brother Robert, an avid environmentalist, and Mary Kerry, a human rights activist, endorsed the New York senator. That's gotta be awkward. Also, as a sidenote, Toni Morrison, who called Bill Clinton "America's first black president," is endorsing Obama. This has got to be the craziest election year I have ever witnessed.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2008-01-28T17:23:18-06:00

ID

116581

Comment

Also, as a sidenote, Toni Morrison, who called Bill Clinton "America's first black president," is endorsing Obama. Now, THAT is a piece of intriguing news.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2008-01-28T23:44:14-06:00

ID

116582

Comment

Wow, look at what Morrison wrote to Obama about his run for the presidency: "In addition to keen intelligence, integrity and a rare authenticity, you exhibit something that has nothing to do with age, experience, race or gender and something I don’t see in other candidates," Morrison wrote. "That something is a creative imagination which coupled with brilliance equals wisdom. It is too bad if we associate it only with gray hair and old age. Or if we call searing vision naivete. Or if we believe cunning is insight. Or if we settle for finessing cures tailored for each ravaged tree in the forest while ignoring the poisonous landscape that feeds and surrounds it. "Wisdom is a gift; you can’t train for it, inherit it, learn it in a class, or earn it in the workplace — that access can foster the acquisition of knowledge, but not wisdom," Morrison wrote.

Author

DonnaLadd

Date

2008-01-28T23:51:18-06:00

ID

116583

Comment

As to Morrison's comment, my sources are telling me Bill Clinton said "I thought she was one of my women. "Creative imagination coupled with brillance," my booty. She told me that too when we used to go out." I know I'm supposed to be ignorant, but I say when a woman moves on, she moves on. Again, I hope Obama defeats Hilary so that people like me can guage the status of the country on the race isssue in the United States of America. I'm tired of the amnesia and false denials. Y'all think Hilary and Bill are in a quandry about what to do about Obama. Watch what the neo-white supremacist party that is intent on turning back the New Deal and Civil Rights does.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-29T09:11:49-06:00

ID

116584

Comment

I'm so glad bubba clinton's true colors are showing. I guess everyone that voted for him understands how wrong they really were about him. He never cared about black folks. The "first black president" sure had alot of people fooled.

Author

Cliff Cargill

Date

2008-01-29T11:10:10-06:00

ID

116585

Comment

Bubba still made some key appointments of blacks, was very good at socially interacting with Black America (something most whites aren't good or relaxed at doing) and showed a greater understanding including sympathy and empathy for the plight of black folks excepting Johnson and Carter. Being poor once and honest about the race issue made him see that and react accordingly. While he's letting his emotions get the best of him (in trying to ensure his wife becomes president so that they can continue to make a mark on the history of the country) I dare not to believe he's racist or hateful toward black folks generally. He's instead mad because he though the Clintons had earned and solidified the black vote. Now he's wondering whether black America is shunning them due to race. I can see a reasonable man getting mad about this. I can see president Johnson getting mad at black America if he thought we were turning our backs on him unfairly considering all he did to ensure equality. Clinton isn't Johnson. He didn't have the power to be Johnson. However, I'll take either Clinton any day over Reagan (clearly a racist), Nixon, either Bush or any of the republicans running for president now. Similarly to Clinton's feeling are my feelings about black folks, under the present circumstances, becoming a republican or so-called independents. Black republicans vote against the best interest of black folks which remain tenuous and precarious to this day. Therefore I can't understand those kinds of colored people. As to independence, I don't know how a reasoanable and good sense black person can look at what the republican and Democratic parties stand for and then proclaim independence. I understand how a white person can do it though. Once I took a good look at the makeup and agendas of both parties, I went looking for planes, trains, cars, boats and anything else I could find to get me quickly to the Democratic party so I could sign up. But again, it takes all kind to make the world go around.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-29T11:35:57-06:00

ID

116586

Comment

I wonder how “black” Toni thinks Clinton is now?

Author

Jeff Lucas

Date

2008-01-29T12:17:31-06:00

ID

116587

Comment

Similarly to Clinton's feeling are my feelings about black folks, under the present circumstances, becoming a republican or so-called independents. ... As to independence, I don't know how a reasoanable and good sense black person can look at what the republican and Democratic parties stand for and then proclaim independence. Ray, I think you're trying to get a rise out of me because you know I'm reading this. :-) Anyway, I'll repeat what I said on another blog: I'm independent of voting for someone just because of a party affiliation. I'm independent of having to think, feel or believe a certain way because of a label. I don't want to be called Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal, red or blue. I want to be called Latasha Willis. I have a dream that one day, this nation will rise up, unify and get rid of political parties so we can just vote for the person who we think will do the best job. I have a dream today!

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2008-01-29T12:25:38-06:00

ID

116588

Comment

Stand strong and stay true to your political beliefs, L.W.

Author

Jeff Lucas

Date

2008-01-29T12:59:28-06:00

ID

116589

Comment

Thanks, Jeff.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2008-01-29T13:13:51-06:00

ID

116590

Comment

No, I'm not trying to get a rise from you, LW. You're one of the most favorite persons I've have met. Believe it or not LW, I would trust you because I know what you were taught although you claim to be an independent. There are many black folks besides you with the nerves to call themselves independents when independents would have left their crazy butts in the cotton fields and in separate but unequal schools and public accomodations. Beleive me, the later commentary wasn't for you. I'm no dummy, LW. I know well what we're turning out in schools all accross America these days. I already know some of my grandchildren and other close relatives who don't know their past and don't know their futures are going to do and say things that belie good judgment, in my opinion. Disappoint reigns in the black community.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-29T13:21:30-06:00

ID

116591

Comment

Ouch! Looks like Teddy Bear has pis$ed off the ladies with his Obama endorsement: Feminists Upset with Ted Kennedy

Author

Jeff Lucas

Date

2008-01-29T13:22:28-06:00

ID

116592

Comment

Believe it or not LW, I would trust you because I know what you were taught although you claim to be an independent. What was I taught, brutha-man? And what do you mean by "claim"? Just trying to make sure I understand where you're coming from. There are many black folks besides you with the nerves to call themselves independents when independents would have left their crazy butts in the cotton fields and in separate but unequal schools and public accomodations. Beleive me, the later commentary wasn't for you. I know you said that wasn't for me, but do you believe that black independents are in a "Stepin Fetchit" state of mind? If not, then what do you mean? Smile.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2008-01-29T13:50:14-06:00

ID

116593

Comment

I'm not surprised at all. The great bell hooks and many other smart black people have wonderfully discussed how feminist interests have collided with the interest of black women and men, on many occasions, and set forth how insensitive and outright truculent white feminists were to the causes of both. This is why we black folks can ill afford to live in fantasy about who and what you are. White feminist have a storied history of going along with the status quo much more so than many of us would like to admit.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-29T13:51:16-06:00

ID

116594

Comment

You were taught the truth. We need to talk personally or independently of this blog to get more commentary from me on this, as I already know you will take it all personally. I'm not going to compromise my learned knowledge and manhood to keep from hurting anyone feelings. I'm a nice person and try not to overstep good standards. I've said what I think of blacks who claim to be independent, and have no problem at all with you or anyone else saying what they think of people like me, usually called liberal or radical or crazy. I'm not saying anymore unless forced. If forced I won't hold back.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-29T13:58:26-06:00

ID

116595

Comment

Okay, Ray, I'll end it here because I like you and would like to continue to do so. Plus, if you make me cry, I don't want my eyes to swell shut. :-)

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2008-01-29T14:16:52-06:00

ID

116596

Comment

I'd back down before figting you, LW. In my view, you've proven you're no Stephin Fetchit. I din't even imply that.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-29T14:19:22-06:00

ID

116597

Comment

Thanks, Ray.

Author

LatashaWillis

Date

2008-01-29T14:21:32-06:00

ID

116598

Comment

Cliff, with all due respect, how can you claim to know that Bill Clinton has the heart of a Grand Dragon, but yet, you can not see the racists overtones of somebody like Rush Limbaugh, Larry Nesbit or Kim Wade? Rush Limbaugh has the moral authority to present Bill Clinton as a racist?

Author

Goldenae

Date

2008-01-29T14:26:15-06:00

ID

116599

Comment

well im an independent because i dont believe that either party gives a damn about me or my people...however, we never admit that our problem is that there is too little solidarity in the black community...its funny how we want to rally behind a winner...look at tiger and youll see why we love him...funny how we want obama to win without knowing what he is going to do...however, we still want to be loved by these good folk in america...im at a point where i dont care about them because history says that they dont care about me...republicans are clearly aware of the problems of the dems...funny how they are unaware of the problems regular people face...

Author

skipp

Date

2008-01-29T14:38:47-06:00

ID

116600

Comment

Even I don't know what to say to you Skipp.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-29T15:13:48-06:00

ID

116601

Comment

I do not really try to argue with people about whether they want to be Democrat, Republican or Independent. I choose to be a Democrat, knowing the party is not perfect. But why would I listen to people in a party who have never had minority leadership or female leadership? A party that does not have any elected minority representation to speak of? You have a party that is basically all white trying to lecture a party that is very diverse on issues of race and gender. There is something fundamentally wrong with that picture to me. Whereever people claim the Democratic Party is on race or gender issues, they are light-years ahead of the Republican Party. When Bush took office, he would not even meet with minority delegations. The Republican candidates make an issue of debating in from of minority audiences. The majority of the people claiming to know what Clinton really means and wanting to keep this racial aspect stirred up want to drive a wedge between the African American community and the Democratic Party. Bill is not innocent in this ordeal, but divide and conquer is a common tactic.

Author

Goldenae

Date

2008-01-29T15:25:53-06:00

ID

116602

Comment

I'll add that I don't like golf or Tiger Wood. I didn't even like Earl Woods, Tiger's daddy. I like Venus' and Serena'd dad, Richard. One party is clearly not anti-black and is a beautiful rainbow coalition of the citizentry of the United States of America. This alone is enough for many folks. But this sisn't the whole story. Divide and conquer have and will always be our problem. I stick with whom I like win, lose or draw. Personally, I never look to see who is winning before choosing.

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-29T15:26:25-06:00

ID

116603

Comment

Gold"Cliff, with all due respect, how can you claim to know that Bill Clinton has the heart of a Grand Dragon, but yet, you can not see the racists overtones of somebody like Rush Limbaugh, Larry Nesbit or Kim Wade? Rush Limbaugh has the moral authority to present Bill Clinton as a racist?" Gold, with equal due respect...read my post; I said no such thing. You are putting words in my mouth.

Author

Cliff Cargill

Date

2008-01-29T17:47:22-06:00

ID

116604

Comment

Cliff: "I'm so glad bubba clinton's true colors are showing. I guess everyone that voted for him understands how wrong they really were about him. He never cared about black folks. The "first black president" sure had alot of people fooled." What exactly were you saying? It is pretty hard for me to interpret that any other way than Clinton never cared about black folks, which happens to be a quote. To make an assertion like that you are in essense calling him evil, thus my insertion of Grand Dragon. I really dont have a problem with your opinion, but like I said, if the light bulb came on about Bill based on the last week, why are the lights still off about the conservative talk show hosts' who routinely take tabs at the black community?

Author

Goldenae

Date

2008-01-29T21:15:48-06:00

ID

116605

Comment

Gold, I'm saying that bubba clinton used black people. As for the rest of the people you mention, you'll have to make your own assertions, but you still can't put words in my mouth.

Author

Cliff Cargill

Date

2008-01-29T22:10:33-06:00

ID

116606

Comment

I guess America has told Guilani, America's mayor, to go find somewhere in America and sat his crazy and troubling ass down. I'm so glad the trash is gone!

Author

Ray Carter

Date

2008-01-30T09:07:00-06:00

ID

116607

Comment

The weeding out period continues. Now Edwards has dropped out of the Demorat race. Chances are he'll probably support Obama...rumor is he's considering a deal with Obama for the USAG position (assuming Obama can actually be elected in Nov).

Author

Jeff Lucas

Date

2008-01-30T10:41:49-06:00